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1. I always presumed the reason Manning was dropped to start Geno Smith was that the Giants were the only remaining franchise not to start a Black QB, and didn't want that distinction.

2. this has happened before….

3. Ok it truly went downhill when we fired Tom Coughlin and brought up McAdoo. The Giants offense in 2015 was truly something special. Manning had his overall best season with a career high 36 passing touchdowns. The issue and why we went 6-10? Our defense was abysmal and let up game winning drives constantly. However after three straight losing seasons, we let Tom go. Now if we kept him for atleast that one year? Well our 11-5 year, our defense was something else. Top 5 in almost every category while our offense took a huge step back with McAdoo at head coach. However, if ben was still at OC with Tom leading the way, I believe Eli and that offense would have found very similar success tp their 2015 year, on top of our stellar defensive play. We went 11-5 with an average at best offense and an elite defense. But what if we were elite on both sides of the ball? I believe we would have made the NFC Championship game if not the Super Bowl. It would have been a tuff team to stop. Now with that being said, Coughlin buys himself at the minimum one more year which means the McAdoo experiment never happens and maybe we hire the right head coach to replace Coughlin.

4. Simms needs to regulate his eye movement while he is on camera. His eyes are constantly shifting up and down – it's way too distracting.

5. This all started with Tisch being enamored with Ben McAdoo. He was the one who caused Coughlin to "resign".

6. Eli didn't get benched, he benched himself . Giants wanted to see geno and Webb during the 2nd half of games. Fassel was given a chance. Hired in 97, 10 wins, then 8, then 7, then 12, then 7 then 9 then 4 and out. Change was needed. Eli caused all of this. Season was lost. Giants then had to win back the fan base and media. Tried to get Eli back in the playoffs. Easy right.? Draft Saquon to pair him with Odell, sign Solder to "improve" the line along with Draft Hernandez. The results? Set the franchise back a decade

7. Handler coached the Giants for 2 years. You’re looking right at it. Jesus

8. Texans intimidate the Houston media by threatening to pull their credentials if they report negative stories about the team. The only people in town who will call them out are the talk show hosts who don't have to go over to the facility on a daily basis.

9. Tom Coughlin walking past and ignoring John Mara's handshake at his final press conference was the turning point.

10. I had completely forgot that McAdoo went 11-5 in his first season. I would’ve given him a third year.

11. Lol he called them a puppet regime

12. You’re right! Coughlin never should’ve been fired. If he had the free agents that McAdoo had his first year the Giants might have gone a lot farther in the playofffs. That firing was a huge mistake.

13. giants should hire Zimmer and spielman they put you back to 8-9 in no time

14. When they didn't PAY their draftees
    (Especially all the OL they once had)

    When they overdrafted a bum for a QB

    When they released Odell Beckham Jr

15. It started to unravel almost 10 years ago back in 2013 when they put Eli Manning over team.
    It got worse when Mara started to let fans and ex-Giants influence his decisions.

16. Wow, now I will remember that this Florio guy is not very informed. Total misread of TC and McAdoo firings.

17. No Joe Judge . . You were the head coach of a "Clown Show" . . You're . . . outta there . .

18. In 2015 the Giants blew a lot of games they should have won. And started of 2013 0-6.

19. The benching of Eli goes along with what you're saying too. Guy wins us 2 SB's and suddenly he's the problem. Bench him and break his record of consecutive starts for Geno Smith. Please.

20. I do not know if Chris Mara is truly qualified at his position as his brother swears, or he was gifted that title of VP of Player Personnel via nepotism, but given the competition throughout the league for such a position, I find it a convenient coincidence that a family member of ownership is the best, most talented person out of the 100 million people in this nation who live and die football and would die for that position. What I do know is that under Chris and the past two GM's Reese and Gettleman, there have been way more misses than hits in the draft and free agent signings. If you want to understand why teams fail, look no further than poor draft success. Furthermore, management in the hiring process looking for prospective candidates to tell them what they want to hear, rather than what they NEED TO HEAR, What needs to be said, I believe has been a troubling issue with the Mara ownership. They wanted to hear that the Giants could still win with Eli, when it was apparent to the many of us, that Eli's physical limitations and deficiencies now made winning in todays, not twenty years ago NFL very difficult, particularly exacerbated by the fact that Reese through his repeated failures in the draft had allowed the offensive line and running game to deteriorate to the point that a QB with Eli's limited mobility could never succeed in todays NFL, where every team had elite Edge Pass Rushers. I said it at the time, that Gettleman Drafting a finesse type running back (Barkley) with the 2nd overall pick when they desperately needed an upgrade at QB, would prove disastrous for the Giants and set them back several years if not longer, if that caused them to miss out on a franchise QB. He drafted Barkley, who in reality is a finishing piece on a well constructed, fundamentally sound, play-off bound team, with a better than league average offensive line, none of which resembled the Giants profile at that time or currently. Then he drafts Jones, a 3rd round talent with the 6th overall pick the following year, when he should have drafted an elite edge pass rusher with the 6th, or moved back in the draft collecting additional picks, still been able to draft an elite offensive lineman or Edge Pass Rusher with their first pick, and drafted Jones with their 2nd pick. Jones is not the worst QB in the NFL, but he is not currently or is he likely to develop into an elite NFL QB, or even top 10 league QB. He might experience a modicum of success under certain circumstances if the stars all aligned, and the team was stacked with talent, but not with these Giant Teams. What is troubling about Jones is that I do not observe him taking command in the huddle, leading his team, seeing teammates gravitate to and circling the wagons around Jones. He continues to make too many poor in-game decisions, takes the most inopportune sack, throws into coverage, stares-down primary receivers, queuing secondary as to where the throw is going, resulting in INTs, defended passes, broken plays, is not the most accurate passer, has decent but not great arm, but simply does not make enough big plays as QB to win the game, does not put the ball in the end zone, has been horrendous in the red-zone. Yes the Giants had many injuries in 2021, but they also had more than sufficient talent to score more than their one TD per game. To me, that failure is on coaching and the QB. Yes the offensive line stunk, but you can not convince me that other more talented QB's could not have accomplished more with less.

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